MINUTES 
          
                    TEXAS INTEGRATED ENROLLMENT AND SERVICES 
                      JOINT LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE 
                            Monday, December 8, 1997 
                                    9:30 a.m. 
                         Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Texas Integrated Enrollment and  
         Services Joint Legislative Oversight Committee was held on  
         Monday, December 8, 1997 in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chair             Senator Judith  
         Zaffirini 
         Senator John Carona 
         Representative Robert Junell 
         Representative Glen Maxey 
          
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         Chairman Ratliff called the meeting to order at 9:35 a.m.  The  
         following business was transacted.   
          
         The following members arrived after the roll was called:   
         Representative Harvey Hilderbran. 
          
         The Chair laid out draft committee rules and recognized  
         Representative Junell for a motion.  Representative Junell  
         made a motion to revise the draft rules by specifying under  
         Rule 4.01 that  "two members from each house shall constitute  
         a quorum."  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Representative Junell then moved that the rules be adopted as  
         amended.  Without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         The Chair provided an overview of the committee's  
         responsibilities as specified in House Bill 2777.  
          
         The Chair called on representatives from the Texas Integrated  
         Enrollment and Services (TIES) Project to provide a briefing  
         and answer question of the committee on the current status and  
         future time lines of the project.  Invited witnesses testified  
         as follows: 
          
              Mike McKinney, representing the Texas Health and Human  
              Services Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Gerald McKimmey, representing the TIES Project, provided  
      
              oral testimony. 
          
              Karen Son, representing the TIES Project, provided oral  
              testimony. 
          
              Gary Frederick, representing the Texas Workforce  
              Commission, registered as a resource witness, but did not  
              testify. 
          
              Peggy F. Garrison, representing the Texas Workforce  
              Commission, registered as a resource witness, but did not  
              testify. 
          
              Mike Bartlett, representing the TIES Project, registered  
              as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
              G. Alan Atwood, representing the TIES Project, registered  
              as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
              Kerby Spruiell, representing the Texas Department of  
              Human Services, registered as a resource witness, but did  
              not testify. 
          
              Johnie McHugh, representing the Texas Workforce  
              Commission, registered as a resources witness, but did  
              not testify. 
          
              Cynthia Mugerauer, representing the TIES Project,  
              registered as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
              Walter Gilmore, representing the TIES Project, registered  
              as a resource witness, but did not testify. 
          
         The Chair recognized the following witnesses to provide public  
         testimony on the current TIES Project: 
          
              Patrick Bresette, representing the Center for Public  
              Policy Priorities, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Charlotte Flynn, representing the Gray Panthers, provided  
              oral and written testimony. 
          
              Walter Hinojosa, representing the Texas AFL-CIO, provided  
              oral and written testimony. 
          
              Michael Gross, representing the CWA/Texas State Employees  
              Union, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Bruce P. Bower, representing the Texas Legal Services  
              Center, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Lisa McGiffert, representing the Consumers Union,  
              provided oral testimony. 
  
              Roy Evans, representing himself, provided oral testimony. 
          
              William Beardall, representing the Texas Appleseed  
              Advocacy Fund, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
              Leslie Hernandez, representing the National Association  
              of Social Workers - Texas, provided oral testimony. 
          
              Alison Dieter, representing the Gray Panthers, provided  
              written testimony only. 
          
         There being no further business, at 12:05 p.m. Senator Ratliff  
         announced  that the Committee would stand recessed subject to  
         the call of the Chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chair 
          
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         Patricia Hicks, Clerk