Subcommittee on Articles IV and V 
         Minutes 
         Monday, May 18, 1998 
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            MINUTES 
          
                           SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                    Interim Subcommittee on Articles IV and V 
                              Monday, May 18, 1998 
                                   10:00 a.m. 
                          Senate Finance Committee Room 
                         Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Interim Finance  
         Subcommittee on Articles IV and V was held on Monday, May 18,  
         1998, in the Senate Finance Committee Room, Capitol Extension,  
         Room E1.036, Austin, Texas.   
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Jeff Wentworth, Chairman 
         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr. 
         Senator David Sibley                     
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              The Chair called the meeting to order at 10:05 a.m.   
         There being a quorum present, the following business was  
         transacted: 
          
              Chairman Wentworth called representatives from the  
         Article V agencies to answer questions of the committee  
         regarding the committee charges.  Invited witnesses appeared  
         as follows: 
          
         Brigadier General Wayne D. Marty, Assistant Adjutant General  
         for Army, Adjutant General's Department, provided oral and  
         written testimony. 
          
         Colonel Michael B. Smith, Assistant Adjutant General for Air,  
         Adjutant General's Department, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Eugene D. Cargile, Deputy Executive Director for State  
         Affairs, Adjutant General's Department, provided oral  
         testimony. 
          
         The Honorable Jack L. Slayton, State Judge Advocate General,  
         Adjutant General's Department, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Jerry Malcolm, Executive Director, Texas Military Facilities  
  
         Commission, provided oral and written testimony. 
          
         William W. Goodwin, Chief of Staff, Texas Military Facilities  
         Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
         James E. Malcolm, Facilities Manager, Texas Military  
         Facilities Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Lydia Cruz, Accountant, Texas Military Facilities Commission,  
         provided oral testimony. 
          
         Doyne Bailey, Administrator, Texas Alcoholic Beverage  
         Commission, provided written and oral testimony. 
          
         Denise Hudson, Director of Fiscal Services, Texas Alcoholic  
         Beverage Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
         The Honorable Kelley Stalder, Commissioner, Texas Commission  
         on Fire Protection, provided written and oral testimony. 
          
         Gary L. Warren, Sr., Executive Director, Texas Commission on  
         Fire Protection, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Thomas R. Thompson, Attorney, Texas Commission on Fire  
         Protection, provided oral testimony. 
          
         The Honorable Larry Craig, Chair, Texas Commission on Jail  
         Standards, provided written and oral testimony. 
          
         Debbie Fillmore, Deputy Director, Texas Commission on Jail  
         Standards, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Jack E. Crump, State Government Liaison, Texas Commission on  
         Jail Standards, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Manjula Nettikumara, Chief Financial Officer, Texas Commission  
         on Jail Standards, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Lisa A. Capers, Deputy Director and General Counsel, Texas  
         Juvenile Probation Commission, provided written and oral  
         testimony. 
          
         Don Pace, Fiscal Officer, Texas Juvenile Probation Commission,  
         provided oral testimony. 
          
         Jim Dozier, Executive Director, Texas Commission on Law  
         Enforcement Standards and Education, provided written and oral  
         testimony. 
          
         Joe A. Stivers, Assistant Presiding Officer, Texas Commission  
         on Law Enforcement Standards and Education, provided oral  
         testimony. 
          
         Edward T. Laine, Administrative Officer, Texas Commission on  
         Law Enforcement Standards and Education, provided oral  
  
         testimony. 
          
         The committee recessed for lunch at 12:30 p.m. and reconvened  
         at 1:55 p.m. 
          
         William K. Teigen, member, Texas Polygraph Examiners Board,  
         provided oral testimony. 
          
         Frank DiTucci, Executive Officer, Texas Polygraph Examiners  
         Board, provided oral testimony. 
          
         Jay Kimbrough, Executive Director, Texas Board of Private  
         Investigators and Private Security Agencies, provided written  
         and oral testimony. 
          
         Steve Robinson, Executive Director, Texas Youth Commission,  
         provided written and oral testimony. 
          
         Terry Graham, Assistant Deputy Executive Director, Financial  
         Support, Texas Youth Commission, provided oral testimony. 
          
              There being no further business, at 2:40 p.m., Chairman  
         Wentworth announced that the Senate Interim Committee on  
         Articles IV and V would stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the Chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
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         Senator Jeff Wentworth, Chair 
          
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         Donna Kay McKinney, Chief Clerk