MINUTES 
          
                       SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES 
                              Wed., March 10, 1999 
                                    8:30 a.m. 
                                 Senate Chamber 
          
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.11, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Human  
         Services was held on Wed., March 10, 1999, in the Senate  
         Chamber at Austin, Texas. 
            
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini, Chair          
         Senator John Carona, Vice Chair 
         Senator David Bernsen 
         Senator Mario Gallegos, Jr. 
         Senator Chris Harris 
          
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         The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted.   
          
         The chair laid out the March 3, 1999, minutes and called for  
         revisions.  There being none, Senator Carona moved their  
         approval.  There being no objection, the motion prevailed by  
         unanimous consent. 
          
         The chair laid out anew SB 499 by Senator Eliot Shapleigh,  
         relating to the eligibility of certain victims of family  
         violence for unemployment compensation, which had been left  
         pending, and recognized Senator Shapleigh. 
          
         Senator Bernsen sent up a new committee substitute and Senator  
         Harris moved its adoption. There being no objection, the  
         motion prevailed by unanimous consent.   
          
         The chair left the committee substitute for SB 499 pending at  
         the request of the author. 
          
         At 8:33 a.m. Senator Carona assumed presiding duties. 
          
         The chair laid out SB 16 by Zaffirini, relating to the  
         participation of local law enforcement agencies in the  
         enforcement of certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco  
         products, and recognized the author to explain the bill. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness and  
  
         provided oral testimony on SB 16: 
          
              Michael Esparza, legal counsel, Office of the  
              Comptroller, 111 East 17th Street, Austin, Texas  
              78711-3528. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness on SB  
         16, but did not testify: 
          
              Philip Huang, chief, Bureau of Disease and Injury  
         Prevention, Texas Department of Health, 
              1100 West 49th Street, Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
         The following person registered in support of SB 16, but did  
         not testify: 
          
              Becky Norrell, 2110 Wood Rush, San Antonio, Texas 78232. 
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to SB 16, the chair  
         closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Harris moved that SB 16 be reported to the Senate with  
         the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  The motion  
         prevailed by  a vote of 5 "ayes" and 0 "nays." 
          
         Senator Harris moved that SB 16 be certified for the local and  
         uncontested calendar.  There being no objection, the motion  
         prevailed by unanimous consent. 
          
         At 8:36 a.m. Senator Zaffirini resumed presiding duties. 
          
         The chair laid out SB 27 by Senator Jane Nelson, relating to  
         parental consent before an abortion may be performed on a  
         minor; providing a criminal penalty, and recognized the author  
         to explain the bill. 
          
         Senator Carona sent up a committee substitute for SB 27 and  
         moved its adoption.  There being no objection, the motion  
         prevailed by unanimous consent. 
          
         The following persons registered as resource witnesses on the  
         committee substitute for SB 27 and provided oral testimony: 
          
              Representative Phil King, state representative, State  
         Capitol, Austin, Texas 78711. 
           
              Dr. Hal Wallis, Texas Physician Resource Council, 1505  
              West Jefferson, #150,  
              Waxahachie, Texas 75165.   
          
         The chair left the committee substitute for SB 27 pending to  
         hear public testimony. 
          
         The chair laid out SB 65 by Senator Nelson, relating to  
  
         informed consent to the performance of an abortion, and  
         recognized the author to explain the bill. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness and  
         provided oral and written testimony on SB 65: 
          
              Linda Gartman, 530 Diamond Bar Trail, Aledo, Texas 76008. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness on SB 65  
         and provided oral testimony: 
          
              Dr. Hal Wallis, Texas Physician Resource Council, 1505  
         West Jefferson, #150, 
              Waxahachie, Texas 75165. 
          
         The chair left SB 65 pending to hear public testimony. 
          
         The chair laid out SB 30 by Senator Shapiro, relating to the  
         parental notification required before an abortion may be  
         performed on a minor; providing a criminal penalty, and  
         recognized the author to explain the bill. 
          
         Senator Carona sent up a committee substitute for SB 30 and  
         moved its adoption.  There being no objection, the motion  
         prevailed by unanimous consent. 
          
         The following person registered as a resource witness on the  
         committee substitute for SB 30 and provided oral testimony: 
          
              John Cornyn, attorney general, Office of the Attorney  
              General, Price Daniels Building, Austin, Texas 78701. 
          
         The chair left the committee substitute for SB 30 pending to  
         hear public testimony. 
          
         The chair laid out SB 83 by Harris, relating to informed  
         consent to the performance of an abortion. 
          
         The chair left SB 83 pending at the request of the author. 
         By unanimous consent, upon a motion by Senator Carona, the  
         chair recessed the Texas Senate Committee on Human Services at  
         9:42 a.m. until 11:45 a.m. 
          
         The chair reconvened the Texas Senate Committee on Human  
         Services at 11:45 a.m. 
          
         The chair laid out anew the committee substitute for SB 27,  
         the committee substitute for SB 30, SB 65, and SB 83, which  
         had been left pending, to hear public testimony.   
          
         The chair asked unanimous consent for all persons who  
         registered and/or provided written testimony in  support of or  
  
         opposition to the committee substitute for SB 27, the  
         committee substitute for SB 30, SB 65 and SB 83 to be shown in  
         the record.  There being no objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony in  
         opposition to the committee substitute for SB 27: 
               
              Cecilia Casebeer, student, 1905 Nueces St., Rm. 10,  
         Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in opposition to  
         the committee substitute for SB 27: 
          
              Margot Clarke, public affairs mgr., Planned Parenthood of  
              Austin, 1209 Rosewood Ave., Austin, Texas 78702.  
          
              Karen Raschke, staff attorney, Center for Reproductive  
              Law & Policy, 8019 Riverside Drive, Richmond, Viriginia  
              23225. 
          
              Hannah Riddering, president, Austin National Organization  
              for Women, 5911 Shoal Creek Blvd., Austin, Texas 78757. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony in  
         support of the committee substitute for SB 27: 
          
              Linda Gartman, 530 Diamond Bar Tr., Aledo, Texas 76008.  
          
         The following persons registered in opposition to the  
         committee substitute for SB 27, but did not testify: 
          
              Katie Hatziavramidis, student, 1300 Crossing, #724,  
         Austin, Texas 78741.      
          
              Susan Osuch, mother of Katie Hatziavramidis, 2555  
         Sunscape Lane, Dallas, Texas 75287. 
          
              Rebecca White, vice president for public affairs, Planned  
              Parenthood of Houston and Southeast Texas, Inc., 3601  
              Fannin, Houston, Texas 77004.  
          
              Kristi Willis, 1408-B Kirkwood, Austin, Texas 78722.  
          
         The following persons registered in support of the committee  
         substitute for SB 27, but did not testify: 
          
              Raymond Vandel Anderson, pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              John R. Babcock, executive pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Matthew Jerome Cassidy, pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
      
              11007 Arch Terrace, Austin, Texas 78750. 
          
              Richard Daly, executive director, Texas Catholic  
              Conference, 1625 Rutherford Ln., Austin, Texas 78754. 
          
              Cindi Davison, 11213 Deadoak, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Albert Edward Doskey, 316 Andrews, 2401 Whitis Avenue,  
         Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
              Loretta Foster, 6 Championship Dr., Austin, Texas 78738. 
          
              Mark John Gatschet, Ph.D., P.O. Box 26336, Austin, Texas  
         78755-0336  
          
              Norborne A. Giblin, Jr., pastor of congregational care,  
              Grace Covenant Church, 9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas  
              78759. 
          
              Mary Jane Hartmann, 4159 Steck Ave., #221, Austin, Texas  
         78759. 
          
              Amy Rebekah Kellogg, 3111 Parker Ln., #232, Austin, Texas  
         78741. 
              Linda Kellogg, 3111 Parker Ln., #232, Austin, Texas  
         78741. 
           
              Joseph Kral, legislative director, Texas Right to Life  
              Committee, Inc., 6776 Southwest Freeway, Suite 430,  
              Houston, Texas 77074. 
          
              Christopher Maska, president, Greater Austin Right to  
              Life, 4601 Balcones Woods Drive, Austin, Texas 78759.  
          
              Shannon McDaniel, 3 Las Brisas Dr., Austin, Texas 78746. 
          
              Karen L. Moore, 3601 Serendipity Hills, Corinth, Texas  
         76205. 
          
              Chris Munson, 13310 Ivywood Cove, Austin, Texas 78729. 
          
              Mark Edmund Olsen, youth pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              DeeAnn L. Paul, 4201 Shadow Oak Lane, Austin, Texas  
         78746. 
          
              Roger Robles, 13114 Brook Garden Lane, San Antonio, Texas  
         78732. 
          
              James O. Rose, sr. pastor/ ch. of Regent, Grace Covenant  
              Church/Dallas Theol. Sem., 3904 John Simpson Trl.,  
              Austin, Texas 78732.   
          
              Liz Stovall, director of children's ministries, Grace  
      
              Covenant Church, 9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas  
              78753.   
          
              Louis G. Struble, Parent Right on Minor Abortion, 11802  
              Buckingham Road, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Shanti Treat, 201 E. 5th St., #101, Austin, Texas 78701. 
          
              Luis F. Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
              Martha T. Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
              Mary Adams Worley, 6108 Turtle Pt. Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78746. 
          
              Nathan H. Zook, 7724 Navarro Pl., Austin, Texas 78749. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony on  
         the committee substitute for SB 30: 
          
              Cele S. Keeper, 2119 Albans Rd., Houston, Texas 77005.  
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony in  
         opposition to the committee substitute for SB 30:  
          
              Cecilia Casebeer, student, 1905 Nueces St., Rm. 10,  
         Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in opposition to  
         the committee substitute for SB 30: 
          
              Margot Clarke, public affairs mgr., Planned Parenthood,  
              1209 Rosewood Ave., Austin, Texas 78702.  
          
              Karen Raschke, staff attorney, Center for Reproductive  
              Law & Policy, 8019 Riverside Drive, Richmond, Virginia  
              23225. 
          
              Hannah Riddering, president, Austin National Organization  
              for Women, 5911 Shoal Creek Blvd., Austin, Texas 78757. 
          
              Nathalie Wolk, LMSW, Planned Parenthood of Houston, 3601  
         Fannin, Houston, Texas 77004. 
          
         The following persons provided oral and written testimony in  
         support of the committee substitute for SB 30: 
          
              Dee Dee Alonzo, 1211 Gumwood, McAllen, Texas 78501. 
          
              Teresa Stanton Collett, professor, 23 Ginger Bay Place,  
         The Woodlands, Texas 77382. 
          
              Linda Gartman, 530 Diamond Bar Tr., Aledo, Texas 76008. 
          
              Terry Manning, 601 Lydia Dr., Killeen, Texas 76541. 
          
              Terry Moore, MD, Texas Physicians Resource Council, 2324  
              San Jacinto, Suite 219, Denton, Texas 76205. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in support of  
         the committee substitute for SB 30: 
          
              Veronica Moore, 3323 Ripplebrook, Houston, Texas 77045. 
          
              Nik Nikas, general counsel, Americans United for Life,  
              6811 E. Voltaire Ave., Scottsdale, Arizona 85254. 
          
         The following persons registered in opposition to the  
         committee substitute for SB 30, but did not testify: 
          
              Kathryn Allen, vice president for public affairs, Planned  
              Parenthood of Dallas and Northeast Texas, 7424  
              Greenville, Suite 206, Dallas, Texas 75231.   
          
              Katie Hatziavramidis, student, 1300 Crossing, #724,  
         Austin, Texas 78741. 
          
              Susan Osuch, mother of Katie Hatiziavramidis, 2555  
         Sunscape Lane, Dallas, Texas 75287. 
          
              Rebecca White, vice president for public affairs, Planned  
              Parenthood of Houston and Southeast Texas, Inc, 3601  
              Fannin, Houston, Texas 77004. 
          
              Kristi Willis, 1408-B Kirkwood, Austin, Texas 78722. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of the committee  
         substitute for SB 30, but did not testify: 
          
              Chuck Anderson, executive director, Texas Christian  
              Coalition, P.O. Box 619013, DFW Airport, Texas 75261. 
          
              Raymond Vandel Anderson, pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research, Austin, Texas 78759.  
          
              John R. Babcock, executive pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Retha Blakely, 310 Avocet, Buda, Texas 78610. 
          
              Suzie Brown, 3808 Leadville Dr., Austin, Texas 78749 
          
              Diane Brymer, P.O. Box 498, Pleasanton, Texas 78064. 
          
              Amanda Brymer, P.O. Box 498, Pleasanton, Texas 78064. 
          
              Robert Scott Carter, 11441 North IH-35, #14203, Austin,  
         Texas 78753. 
          
              Shannon Prince Carter, 11441 N. IH-35, #14203, Austin,  
         Texas 78753. 
          
              Matthew J. Cassidy, pastor, Grace Covenant Church, 11007  
              Arch Terrace, Austin, Texas 78750. 
          
              Alice "Lolly" Conlin, legislative laision, Concerned  
              Women for America, 2211 Spring Hollow Path, Round Rock,  
              Texas 78681. 
          
              Angelica Cruz, St. Edward's University-Respect Life, 3001  
         S. Congress, Austin, Texas 78704. 
          
              Richard Daly, executive director, Texas Catholic  
              Conference, 1625 Rutherford Ln., Austin, Texas 78754.  
          
              Ray Daugherty, membership director, Young Conservatives  
              of Texas, 1515 Wickersham, Apt. 828, Austin, Texas 78741.  
          
              Sarah Daugherty, 2400 W. Braker Lane, Suite G, Austin,  
         Texas 78758. 
          
              Cindi Davison, 11213 Deadoak, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Albert Edward Doskey, 316 Andrews, 2401 Whitis Avenue,  
         Dallas, Texas 78705. 
          
              Carolyn Felder, registered, licensed dietitian, 8134  
         Meandering Way, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Idus Felder, 8134 Meandering Way, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Loretta Foster, 6 Championship Dr., Austin, Texas 78738. 
          
              Kay S. Francis, legislative liasion, Texas Eagle Forum,  
              3805 Montecito Road, Denton, Texas 76205. 
          
              Mark John Gatschet, PhD.,  P.O. Box 26336, Austin, Texas  
         78755-0336. 
          
              Vimal George, 14747 Charlmont Drive, Houston, Texas  
         77083. 
          
              Norborne A. Giblin, Jr., pastor of congregational care,  
              Grace Covenant Church, 6002 Danwood,  Austin, Texas  
              78759. 
          
              Emily Groendyke, 2605 Whitis, #584, Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
              Monica R. Hatcher, media relations director, Texas Right  
              to Life Committee, Inc., 6776 Southwest Freeway., Ste.  
              430, Houston, Texas 77074.  
              Debbie D. Hausmann, 1601 Manana St., Austin, Texas 78730. 
          
              Wendy Hintze, P.O. Box 925, Pflugerville, Texas 78691. 
  
              JuJu Chacko Joyce, 101 East 21st Street, #W572, Austin,  
         Texas 78705. 
          
              Patricia Marie Keel, Greater Austin Right to Life, 808  
              Brooks Hollow Road, Austin, Texas 78734-3409.      
          
              Joseph Kral, legislative director, Texas Right to Life  
              Committee, Inc., 6776 Southwest Freeway, Suite 430,  
              Houston, Texas 77074. 
          
              Sharon Kress, 7808 B Hart Lane, Austin, Texas 78731.  
          
              John Lange, 5006 Shoal Creek Blvd., Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
              Nancy Larkin, area representative, Concerned Women for  
              America, P.O. Box 332, Schertz, Texas 78154. 
          
              Melissa Leger, marketing director, 114 Scorpion Dr.,  
         Austin, Texas 78734.  
          
              Julieanne Maria Loth, respect life coordinator, Emmaus  
              Catholic Church, 303 Malabar, Austin, Texas 78734.  
               
              Linda Maska, 4601 Balcones Woods Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78759. 
          
              Shannon McDaniel, 3 Las Brisas Dr., Austin, Texas 78746. 
          
              Dana Merritt, 515 Rolling Green, Lakeway, Texas 78734. 
          
              Karen L. Moore, 3601 Serendipity Hills, Corinth, Texas  
         76205. 
          
              Chris Munson, 13310 Ivywood Cove, Austin, Texas 78729. 
          
              Mark Edmund Olsen, youth pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Margaret O'Sullivan, Greater Austin Right to Life, 3702  
              Cima Serena Drive, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Sandra Snell Peavy, Greater Austin Right to Life, 5304  
         Halwill Pl., Austin, Texas 78723. 
          
              Jamie Marie Reeh, St. Edward's University Respect Life,  
              3001 S. Congress, St. Edwards University, CLM 531,  
              Austin, Texas 78704.     
          
              James O. Rose, sr. pastor, Grace Covenant Church/Dallas  
              Theol. Sem., 3904 John Simpson Trl., Austin, Texas 78732. 
          
              Claire Sadler, member, University Life Advocates - UT -  
              University of Texas, 3001 Medical Arts, #217, Austin,  
              Texas 78705. 
  
              Katherine Shelby Sanford, 4539 Guadalupe St., #A110,  
         Austin, Texas 78751. 
          
              John E. Scherer, president, Right to Life Advocates.,  
              Inc.,  13702 Marylebone Drive, Houston, Texas 77034.  
          
              Vicki Cheryl Schiavolin, 411 Golf Crest Lane, Austin,  
         Texas 78734.  
          
              Ian Shaw, 5107 Saddle Circle, Austin, Texas 78727. 
          
              Jessie Shaw, 5107 Saddle Circle, Austin, Texas 78727. 
          
              Katie Shaw, 5107 Saddle Circle, Austin, Texas 78727. 
          
              Shannon Shaw, 5107 Saddle Circle, Austin, Texas 78727. 
          
              Shirley Spellerberg, Texas Eagle Forum, 3621 Lynchburg  
         Dr., Corinth, Texas 76208. 
          
              Marilou Stephenson, 1210 Southwood Rd., Austin, Texas  
         78764. 
          
              Davida B. Stike, 16906 Isle of Man Rd., Pflugerville,  
         Texas 78660.  
          
              Liz Stovall, director of children's ministries, Grace  
              Covenant Church, 9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas  
              78759. 
          
              Louis G. Struble, Parent Right on Minor Abortion, 11802  
              Buckingham Road, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Joseph Thornton III, 1200 Barton Hills Drive, #222,  
         Austin, Texas 78704. 
          
              Shanti Treat, 201 E. 5th St., #101, Austin, Texas 78701. 
              Luis F. Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
              Martha T. Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
              Weston W. Ware, associate director, Texas Baptist  
              Christian Life Commission, 333 N. Washington, Dallas,  
              Texas 75246. 
          
              Marjorie Wild, Greater Austin Right to Life, 2450 Ashdale  
         Dr., #221, Austin, Texas 78757. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in opposition to  
         SB 65: 
          
              Margot Clarke, public affairs mgr., Planned Parenthood of  
              Austin, 1209 Rosewood Ave., Austin, Texas 78702. 
          
              Katie Hatziavramidis, student, 1300 Crossing, #724,  
         Austin, Texas 78741. 
          
         The following persons registered in opposition to SB 65, but  
         did not testify: 
          
              Cecilia Casebeer, student, 1905 Nueces St., Rm. 10,  
         Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
              Susan Osuch, mother of Katie Hatziavramidis, 2555  
         Sunscape Lane, Dallas, Texas 75287. 
          
              Kristi Willis, 1408-B Kirkwood, Austin, Texas 78722. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of SB 65,  but did  
         not testify: 
          
              Raymond Vandel Anderson, pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              John R. Babcock, executive pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
              9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Matthew Cassidy, pastor, Grace Covenant Church, 11007  
         Arch Terrace, Austin, Texas 78750. 
          
              Richard Daly, executive director, Texas Catholic  
              Conference, 1625 Rutherford Ln., Austin, Texas 78754. 
          
              Cindi Davison, 11213 Deadoak, Austin, Texas 78759. 
              Albert Edward Doskey, 316 Andrews, 2401 Whitis Avenue,  
              Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
              Loretta Foster, 6 Championship Dr., Austin, Texas 78738. 
          
              Norborne A. Giblin Jr., pastor of congregational care,  
              Grace Covenant Church, 9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas  
              78759. 
          
              Joseph Kral, legislative director, Texas Right to Life  
              Committee, Inc., 6776 Southwest Freeway, Suite 430,  
              Houston, Texas 77074. 
          
              Shannon McDaniel, 3 Las Brisas Dr., Austin, Texas 78746. 
               
              Karen L. Moore, 3601 Serendipity Hills, Corinth, Texas  
         76205. 
          
              Chris Munson, 13310 Ivywood Cove, Austin, Texas 78729. 
          
              Mark Edmund Olsen, youth pastor, Grace Covenant Church,  
         Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              James O. Rose, sr. pastor/Ch. of Regents, Grace Covenant  
      
              Church/Dallas Theol. Semin., 3904 John Simpson Trl.,  
              Austin, Texas 78732.  
          
              Liz Stovall, director of Children's Ministries, Grace  
              Covenant Church, 9500 Research Blvd., Austin, Texas  
              78758. 
               
              Luis F. Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
              Martha T. Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in opposition to  
         SB 83: 
          
              Margot Clarke, public affairs mgr., Planned Parenthood of  
              Austin, 4209 Rosewood Ave., Austin, Texas 78702. 
          
              Katie Hatziavramidis, student, 1300 Crossing, #724,  
         Austin, Texas 78741. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony in  
         support of SB 83: 
          
              Linda Gartman, 530, Diamond Bar Trail, Aledo, Texas  
         76008. 
         The following persons registered in opposition to SB 83, but  
         did not testify: 
          
              Cecilia Casebeer, 1905 Nueces St., Rm., 10, Austin, Texas  
         78705. 
          
              Susan Osuch, mother of Katie Hatziavramidis, 2555  
         Sunscape Lane, Dallas, Texas 75287. 
          
              Hannah Riddering, president, Austin National Organization  
              for Women, 5911 Shoal Creek Blvd., Austin, Texas 78757. 
          
              Kristi Willis, 1408-B Kirkwood, Austin, Texas 78722.         
          
         The following persons registered in support of SB 83, but did  
         not testify: 
          
              Cindi Davison, 11213 Deadoak, Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Loretta Foster, 6 Championship Dr., Austin, Texas 78738. 
          
              Shannon McDaniel, 3 Las Brisas Dr., Austin, Texas 78746. 
          
              Roger Robles, 13114 Brook Garden Lane, San Antonio, Texas  
         78732. 
          
              Luis Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745.    
          
              Martha Vigo, 3325 Clarksburg Dr., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
         The following persons provided oral and written testimony in  
         opposition to the committeee substitute for SB 27, the  
         committee substitute for SB 30, SB 65 and  SB 83: 
          
              Evelyn Bonavita, League of Women Voters of Texas, 334  
              Royal Oaks Dr., San Antonio, Texas 78209. 
          
              Donna Hoffman, legislative liaison, Texas National  
              Organization for Women, P.O. Box 2222, Austin, Texas  
              78768-2222. 
          
              Jill Martinez, Greater Dallas Coalition for Reproductive  
              Freedom, 9522 Valley Ranch Pky. W, Irving, Texas 75063. 
          
              Peggy Romberg, executive director, Texas Family Planning  
              Association, P.O. Box 3868, Austin, Texas 78764. 
              Judith Shure, volunteer, Greater Dallas Coalition for  
              Reproductive Freedom, 9859 Elmcrest Drive, Dallas, Texas  
              75238. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in opposition to  
         the committee substitute for SB 27, the committee substitute  
         for SB 30, SB 65 and SB 83: 
          
              Margaret Romberg Carter, 7909 Whitsun Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78749. 
          
              Deirdre Feehan, litigation coordinator, American Civil  
              Liberties Union of Texas, 905 West Oltorf, Austin, Texas  
              78764. 
          
              Joleen S. Garcia, member, Texas National Organization for  
              Women, 4910 Timer Hts., San Antonio, Texas 78250. 
          
              Dave Kittrell, 4499 Medical Drive, Ste.156, San Antonio,  
         Texas 78229. 
          
              Mary Kroner, 1712 East Riverside, #111, Austin, Texas  
         78741. 
          
              Kae McLaughlin, executive director, Texas Abortion &  
              Reproductive Rights Action League, 905 W. Oltorf, Ste. D,  
              Austin, Texas 78704. 
          
              Jim Rigby, reverend, 14311 Wells Port, Austin, Texas  
         78728. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony in support of  
         the committee substitute for SB 27, the committee substitute  
         for SB 30, SB 65 and SB 83: 
          
              Theresa M. Connolly, 114 Thorain, San Antonio, Texas  
         78212. 
          
              Becky Norrell, 2110 Wood Rush, San Antonio, Texas 78232. 
          
              David Sweet, pastor, Hays Hills Baptist Church, 316  
         Appleton Ct., Buda, Texas 78610. 
          
         The following persons registered in opposition to the  
         committee substitute for SB 27, the committee substitute for  
         SB 30, SB 65 and SB 83, but did not testify: 
          
              Eric Bray, legislative intern, Texas Abortion and  
              Reproductive Rights Action League, 2612 Guadalupe, #502,  
              Austin, Texas 78704. 
          
              Brenda Budenosky, 4641 Lasater Rd., Mesquite, Texas  
         75181. 
          
              Alicia R. Butler, president, University of Texas Voices  
              for Choice, 6910 Hart Ln., #606, Austin, Texas 78731. 
               
              Lizzie Cain Clark, 3011 West Avenue, Austin, Texas 78705. 
          
              Suzette Cullen, 202 W. Mockingbird Ln., Austin, Texas  
         78745. 
          
              Pam Fridrich, 12501 Shady Acres, Buda, Texas 78610. 
          
              Kimberly Devlin Hall, member, Texas Women's Political  
              Caucus, 155 1/2 Castle Ct., #2, Houston, Texas 77006.   
          
              Karen Hildebrand, president, Planned Parenthood of West  
              Texas, 910-B S. Grant, Odessa, Texas 79761. 
          
              Betty Hoover, CEO, Planned Parenthood Center of El Paso,  
              11720 Chito Samaniego, El Paso, Texas 79936. 
          
              Kristin Leigh Keeling, 1200 Enfield, #206, Austin, Texas  
         78703. 
          
              Mary Beth Martini, 1700 Cloverleaf Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78723. 
          
              Gay McDaniel, public policy intern, Texas Association  
              Against Sexual Assault, 800 Brazos, Ste. 810, Austin,  
              Texas 78701. 
          
              Rosemary D. Merriaw, 800 West Lynn, Austin, Texas 78703. 
          
              Bettie Naylor, consultant, Texas Abortion Reproduction  
              Rights Action League, 1122 Colorado, #307, Austin, Texas  
              78701. 
                    
              Kyre Osborn, 2100 Maple Ave., Austin, Texas 78722. 
          
              Naomi Tellez, 1803 E. Anderson Lane, #2152, Austin, Texas  
         78752. 
  
              Christine TenBarge, 607 E. 42nd St., Austin, Texas 78751. 
          
              Sharon A. Truett, 309 B Red Bird Ln., Austin, Texas  
         78745. 
          
              Frieda Werden, host, Women's News Hour, P.O. Box 33220,  
         Austin, Texas 78764. 
          
              Trudy Woodson, 827 White Oak, Waco, Texas 76712. 
          
         The following persons registered in support of the committee  
         substitute for SB 27, the committee substitute for SB 30, SB  
         65 and SB 83, but did not testify: 
          
              Martin Belforte, director of operations, American Family  
              Association of Texas, P.O. Box 1685, Austin, Texas  
              78767-1685. 
          
              Peggy Bower, 4001 Far West Blvd., Austin, Texas 78731. 
          
              Mary P.K. Burns, 16036 Commelina Dr., Leander, Texas  
         78641. 
          
              Joy Carruth, 8101 Bunker Hill Court, College Station,  
         Texas 77845. 
          
              Michael A. Carruth, 8101 Bunker Hill Ct., College  
         Station, Texas 77845. 
          
              Robert Scott Carter, 11441  North IH-35, #14203, Austin,  
         Texas 78753. 
          
              Shannon P. Carter, 11441 N. IH-35, #14203, Austin, Texas  
         78753. 
          
              Eric William Cernyar, 1781 Spyglass Dr., #304, Austin,  
         Texas 78746. 
          
              Albert Cheng, legislative director, Free Market  
              Committee, 5914 Rutherglenn, Houston, Texas 77096. 
          
              Margaret Anne DeBarbarie, 1741 Spyglass Dr., #100,  
         Austin, Texas 78746. 
          
              Michelle Lynn Downes, 1000 West 25th, #102, Austin, Texas  
         78705. 
          
              Janet E. Felder, 8016 El Dorado Dr., Austin, Texas 78737. 
          
              Jack M. Finger, P.O. Box 12048, San Antonio, Texas 78212. 
          
              Carolyn Galloway, 6517 Hillcrest, #308, Dallas, Texas  
         75225. 
          
              Tommie Lou Gauntt, 1748 Ohlen Rd., #57, Austin, Texas  
         78757-7863. 
          
              Merry Lynn Gerstenschlager, legislative liaison, Texas  
              Eagle Forum, 105 High View Dr., Weatherford, Texas 76086. 
          
              Kelly Gorbet, 4608 Whirlaway Dr., Del Valle, Texas 78617. 
          
              Stella Gorbet, 4608 Whirlaway Dr., Del Valle, Texas  
         78617. 
          
              Kenneth Gausmann, 1601 Manana, Austin, Texas 78730. 
          
              Lisa Henke, 4308 Flagstaff Dr., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Mary Hennigan, 1317 Carriage Drive, Irving, Texas 75062. 
          
              Elisabeth Hull, volunteer, Greater Austin Area Right to  
              Life, 600 W. 26th, #J297, Austin, Texas 78705.  
          
              Debra L. Konarik, Rt. 3, Box 87D, Rockdale, Texas 76567. 
          
              Phil Konarik, Rt. 3, Box 87D, Rockdale, Texas 76567. 
          
              Melanie Malone, 6636 W. Wm. Cannon, Austin, Texas 78735. 
          
              Gerry Anne Markham, 6499 Hart, Austin, Texas 78731. 
          
              Carol E. McWilliams, GARTL, 2308 Macaw Drive, Cedar Park,  
         Texas 78613. 
          
              David Muralt, Texas director, Citizens for Excellence in  
              Education, 3101 Jeanne Marie Ct., Austin, Texas 78745. 
          
              Christine S. Nagel, 4308 Flagstaff Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78759. 
          
              Dustin Parks, L341 Prather, 305 East 21st Street, Austin,  
         Texas 78705-9004. 
          
              Beatriz Pojman, 4159 Steck Ave., #263, Austin, Texas  
         78759. 
          
              Joseph R. Pojman, PhD., executive director, Greater  
              Austin Right to Life Comm., 2026 Guadalupe, Ste. 312,  
              Austin, Texas 78705.  
              John O'Sullivan, Greater Austin Right to Life, 3702 Cima  
         Serena Dr., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              John W.K. Overbey, 6306 Leatherwood Cove, Austin, Texas  
         78759. 
          
              John Joseph Raymond, 11429A Ptarmigan Drive, Austin,  
         Texas 78758. 
          
              Jamie M. Reeh, St. Edward's University Hilltoppers for  
              Life, 3001 South Congress, Mailbox, 531, Austin, Texas  
              78704.   
          
              Rebecca Robinson, community liaison, Greater Austin Right  
              to Life, P.O. Box 49137, Austin, Texas 78765. 
          
              Julia Kathleen Russell, 7308 Greenhaven Dr., Austin,  
         Texas 78757. 
          
              Peter Russo, 3500 Greystone Dr., #173, Austin, Texas  
         78731. 
          
              Dora Alicia Salazar, 9002A Sanger Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78748. 
          
              Everett H. Snider, member, Foundation for Life, Rt. 2,  
         Box 480, Dickinson, Texas 77539. 
          
              Susan Stavinoha, 10715 Oak View Dr., Austin, Texas 78759. 
          
              Don Stubblefield, 1810 Ash St., Georgetown, Texas 78626. 
          
              Robert Thelen, 1204 Gemini Drive, Austin, Texas 78758. 
          
              Gloria Rubio Traber, 1702 Wantana Dr., Round Rock, Texas  
         78664. 
          
              Ann Joy Vostatek, public school educator, Pro  
              Life/Rachael Project, 3704 John Simpson Trail, Austin,  
              Texas 78732. 
          
              Thomas A. Wilder, county elected official, district  
              clerk, P.O. Box 20121, Ft. Worth, Texas 76102-8121. 
          
              Cynthia Willis, 3600 North Hills Drive, #219, Austin,  
         Texas 78731. 
          
              Sharon Glass Windley, 11818 Eubank Dr., Austin, Texas  
         78758. 
              Rebekah J. Wright, 3500 Greystone, Apt., 212, Austin,  
         Texas 78731. 
          
         The following persons submitted written testimony in  
         opposition to the committee substitute for SB 27, the  
         committee substitute for SB 30, SB 65 and SB 83: 
          
              Amanda Davis, 5106 Evergreen Ct., Austin, Texas 78731. 
          
              Nita L. Hornbeck, public policy legislation, American  
              Association of University Women, 600 Parkview Drive,  
              Round Rock, Texas 78681. 
          
              Linda Mendoza, 614 S. 1st., Apt. 202, Austin, Texas  
  
         78704. 
          
              John F. Yeaman, 15500 Wilmont Cove, Austin, Texas 78717. 
          
         The following persons provided written testimony prior to  
         today's hearing in support of SB 30: 
          
              Kay Francis, legislative liaison, Texas Eagle Forum, 3805  
         Montecito, Denton, Texas 76205. 
          
              Paul S. McDonald, 4605 Post Oak Place, Suite 218,  
         Houston, Texas 77027. 
          
         The following person provided written testimony prior to  
         today's hearing in opposition to SB 27 and SB 30: 
          
              Diane Stepakof-Fay, 2813 Glenwood Trail, Cedar Park,  
         Texas 78613.   
          
         There being no other witnesses registered or responding to the  
         chair's call for public testimony related to the committee  
         substitute for SB 27, the committee substitute for SB 30, SB  
         65 and SB 83, the chair closed public testimony. 
          
         Senator Carona moved that SB 27 be reported to the Senate with  
         the recommendation that it do not pass, but that the committee  
         substitute adopted in lieu thereof do pass and be printed.   
         The motion prevailed with a vote of 3 "ayes" and 2 "nays." 
          
         Senator Carona moved that SB 30 be reported to the Senate with  
         the recommendation that it do not pass, but that the committee  
         substitute adopted in lieu thereof do pass and be printed.   
         The motion prevailed with a vote of 3 "ayes" and 2 "nays." 
         Senator Carona moved that SB 65 be reported to the Senate with  
         the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  The motion  
         prevailed with a vote of 3 "ayes" and 2 "nays." 
          
         With no other business to come before the committee and upon a  
         motion by Senator Carona, the chair recessed the committee at  
         1:55 p.m., subject to the call of the chair. 
          
         _________________________________________ 
         Judith Zaffirini, Chair 
          
         _________________________________________ 
         Scott Caffey, Committee Clerk