MINUTES 
                                           
                         SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES 
                             Thursday, October 28, 1999 
                                       9 a.m. 
                    Lt. Governor's Committee Hearing Room, 2E.20 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, an organizational meeting and briefing of the Senate  
         Committee on Human Services was held on Thursday, October 28,  
         1999, in the Lt. Governor's Committee Hearing Room, 2E.20, at  
         Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini, Chair         Senator Mario Gallegos,  
                                                 Jr. 
         Senator John Carona, Vice Chair 
         Senator David Bernsen 
         Senator Chris Harris 
          
         ALSO PRESENT: 
         Representative Norma Chavez 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 9 a.m.  There being a  
         quorum present, the following business was transacted. 
          
         The chair made opening remarks and announced that the purpose of  
         the meeting was to consider the organization, rules, procedures  
         and proposed schedule for the Senate Committee on Human Services  
         and to receive briefings regarding interim charges from Lt.  
         Governor Rick Perry. 
          
         The chair recognized Chris Hudson, committee director, who  
         introduced committee staff for the interim, namely, Scott  
         Caffey, committee clerk; Stacy Gaston, legislative aide; Anne  
         Ray, legislative 
         aide; and Jon Weizenbaum, legislative aide. 
          
         The chair laid out the interim rules for the Senate Committee on  
         Human Services and called for revisions.  There being none,  
         Senator Carona moved their approval.  There being no objection,  
         the rules were adopted by unanimous consent. 
          
         The chair called invited panelists to brief committee members  
         regarding the continuum of care and support options available to  
         Texans in need of long-term care and the implementation of SB  
         374 by Senator Judith Zaffirini and Representative Patricia  
         Gray, relating to the provision of certain 
         long-term care services, to the continuation and functions of  
  
         the Texas Department on Aging, and to the eventual consolidation  
         of the Texas Department of Human Services and the Texas  
         Department on Aging into a new agency on aging and disability  
         services. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony: 
          
              Don Gilbert, commissioner, Texas Health and Human Services  
              Commission, 4900 North Lamar, 4th Floor, Austin, Texas  
              78711-3247. 
          
              Eric Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714-9030. 
          
              Karen Hale, commissioner, Texas Department of Mental Health  
         and Mental Retardation, 
              909 West 45th Street, Austin, Texas 78711-2668. 
          
              William "Reyn" Archer, commissioner, Texas Department of  
              Health, 1100 West 49th Street, Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
              Mary Sapp, executive director, Texas Department on Aging,  
              4900 North Lamar, Austin, Texas 78711-2786. 
          
              Kim Stokes, senior associate commissioner, Texas Department  
              on Insurance, 333 Guadalupe Street, Austin, Texas  
              78714-9104. 
          
         Senator Carona moved to add Medically Fragile Children in Texas  
         Nursing Homes to the interim committee charges.  There being no  
         objection, the motion prevailed by unanimous consent. 
          
         The chair called invited panelists to brief committee members  
         regarding the services provided to hardest-to-serve adult  
         welfare recipients and services provided to children receiving  
         welfare. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony: 
          
              Don Gilbert, commissioner, Texas Health and Human Services  
              Commission, 4900 North Lamar, 4th Floor, Austin, Texas  
              78711-3247. 
          
              Eric Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
         Services, 701 West 51st Street,  
              Austin, Texas 78714-9030. 
          
              Diane Rath, commissioner, Texas Workforce Commission, 101  
              East 15th Street, Austin, Texas 78778-0001. 
               
              Cheryl Halliburton, director, Texas Council on Workforce  
         and Economic Competitiveness, 
              1100 San Jacinto, Room 100, Austin, Texas 78768. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony: 
          
              Patrick Bresette, associate director, Center for Public  
         Policy Priorities, 900 Lydia Street, 
              Austin, Texas 78702. 
          
         The chair called invited panelists to brief committee members  
         regarding federal developments related to long-term care and  
         welfare issues. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony: 
          
              Don Gilbert, commissioner, Texas Health and Human Services  
              Commission, 4900 North Lamar, 4th Floor, Austin, Texas  
              78711-3247 
          
              Eric Bost, commissioner, Texas Department of Human  
              Services, 701 West 51st Street, Austin, Texas 78714-9030. 
          
              Diane Rath, commissioner, Texas Workforce Commission, 101  
              East 15th Street, Austin, Texas 78778-0001. 
          
              Kathy Eckstein, senior policy analyst, Legislative Budget  
         Board, P.O. Box 12666, Austin 
              Texas 78733. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony: 
          
              Jon Hinojosa, legislative liaison, Office of State-Federal  
              Relations, 1100 San Jacinto, Suite 288, Austin, Texas  
              78711. 
          
         The chair called invited panelists to brief committee members  
         regarding the implementation of SB 30 by Senator Florence  
         Shapiro and Representative Diane Delisi, relating to parental  
         notification before an abortion may be performed on certain  
         minors. 
          
         The following person provided oral testimony: 
          
              William "Reyn" Archer, commissioner, Texas Department of  
              Health, 1100 West 49th Street, Austin, Texas 78756. 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony: 
          
              Robert Pemberton, rules attorney, Supreme Court of Texas,  
              201 West 14th Street, Room 104, Austin, Texas 78711. 
          
         The chair called invited panelists to brief committee members  
         regarding the implementation of HB 2641 by Representative  
         Patricia Gray and Senator J.E. "Buster" Brown, relating to the  
         continuation and functions of the Health and Human Services  
         Commission. 
  
         The following person provided oral testimony: 
          
              Don Gilbert, commissioner, Texas Health and Human Services  
              Commission, 4900 North Lamar, 4th Floor, Austin, Texas  
              78711-3247.  
          
         The chair called invited panelists to brief committee members  
         regarding the effects of additional resources provided to the  
         Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services. 
          
         The following persons provided oral testimony: 
          
              Karen Eells, deputy director for programs, Texas Department  
              of Protective and Regulatory Services, 701 West 51st  
              Street, Austin, Texas 78714-9030. 
          
              Drew Thigpen, deputy director for finance, Texas Department  
              of Protective and Regulatory Services, 701 West 51st  
              Street, Austin, Texas 78714-9030. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini concluded the organizational meeting by  
         requesting that Commissioner Don Gilbert assume a leadership  
         role in creating working groups with agency staff, advocates,  
         other interested persons, committee members' staff  
         representatives and committee staff to develop recommendations  
         related to the committee's interim charges and responsibilities.   
         Senator Zaffirini stated that she intends the committee's work  
         during the interim to lead to the creation of strong legislation  
         aimed at improving the lives of all Texans.  She noted that  
         future hearings and working groups will be designed to prepare  
         the committee's legislative agenda for the 77th Legislative  
         Session. 
          
         With no other business to come before the committee and upon a  
         motion by Senator Bernsen, the chair recessed the committee by  
         unanimous consent at 12:07 p.m., subject to the call of the  
         chair.     
          
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         Judith Zaffirini, Chair 
          
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         Scott Caffey, Committee Clerk