MINUTES 
                                           
                    SENATE COMMITTEE ON BORDER AFFAIRS - SPECIAL 
                            Thursday, November 18, 1999 
                                     11:00 a.m. 
                                   UT at El Paso 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Border  
         Affairs - Special was held on Thursday, November 18, 1999, in  
         the UT at El Paso at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr.                Senator David Sibley 
         Senator Teel Bivins                     Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Carlos Truan 
                                           
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         The Chair called the meeting to order at 11:05 a.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         Chairman Lucio asked for approval of the minutes from the  
         previous hearing on October 13, 1999.  Senator Truan moved  
         approval of the minutes. 
          
         Chairman Lucio gave opening remarks. 
          
         Senator Shapleigh, Senator Duncan, Senator Bivins, and Senator  
         Truan gave opening remarks. 
          
         Chairman Lucio read a letter from Senator Zaffirini. 
          
         Chairman Lucio asked for a moment of silence for the students at  
         A&M University. 
          
         Regent Woody Hunt, representing University of Texas System,   
         gave opening remarks. 
          
         Mr. Jim Manley, representing El Paso County Judge's Office,   
         gave opening remarks.  
          
         Mr. Luis Sarinana, representing District #7 of the city of El  
         Paso, gave opening remarks. 
          
         Chairman Lucio provided an update on the A&M student tragedy.   
         He asked that during the course of the day everyone join  
         together in silent prayer for the families. 
          
         Chairman Lucio recognized the Committee Clerk, Stephanie Hoover,  
         and the Committee Director, Daniel Esparza.  He also recognized  
         former State Senator Dan Shelley and former State Representative  
         Eddie Cavasos. 
          
         Mr. Mike Sheridan, representing Texas Workforce Commission,  
         testified on interim charge #4. 
          
         Senator Truan asked that Mr. Sheridan provide the Committee with  
         statistical data in regards to the success of the training  
         programs provided by the Commission. 
          
         Chairman Lucio asked Mr. Sheridan to provide the Committee with  
         information on unemployment for veterans per capita as compared  
         to the general citizen population. 
          
         Senator Bivins asked Mr. Sheridan if there is more emphasis  
         today on childcare than a decade ago. 
          
         Chairman Lucio asked if the state of Texas were to strengthen  
         its efforts to the level that it would comprehensively and  
         appropriately address the workforce needs of the border in terms  
         of curriculum, programs, what would be the associated cost of  
         such an effort. He also asked  if the current level of funding  
         from federal funds is sufficient for such a comprehensive  
         effort.  Chairman Lucio asked the Workforce Commission look at  
         these matters and get back to the Committee before the end of  
         the interim study.  He stated there might be a need to create a  
         state fund to compliment federal funds. 
          
         Chairman Lucio asked that the Committee stand at ease for a  
         short lunch break. 
          
         At 1:15 pm the Committee reconvened.  Chairman Lucio announced  
         that the Committee would continue hearing invited testimony and  
         then hear public testimony. 
          
         Mr. Manny Pacillas, representing UTEP, El Paso Empowerment Zone,  
         testified on interim charge #4. 
          
         Mr. Hugo Bustamante, representing Upper Rio Grande Workforce  
         Development, testified on interim charge #4. 
          
         Ms. Cynthia Arnold, representing La Mujer Obrera, testified on  
         interim charge #4.  Chairman Lucio asked Ms. Arnold for her  
         remarks in writing. 
          
         Mr. Don Hoyte, representing Office of the Texas Comptroller of  
         Public Accounts, testified on interim charge #4. 
          
         Mr. Martin Aguirre, representing Upper Rio Grande Workforce  
  
         Board, testified on interim charge #4.  
          
         Chairman Lucio recognized Commissioner Carlos Aguilar of El Paso  
         County. 
          
         At 2:55 p.m. Senator Shapleigh assumed the chair.   
          
         Dr. Jorge Maea a, representing El Paso County City County Health  
         & Environment District, testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         Dr.  Jose Manuel de la Rosa, representing Texas Tech University  
         Health Sciences Center - El Paso, testified on interim charge  
         #3. 
          
         Dr. Miguel Escobedo, representing Texas Department of Health,  
         testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         Mr. Pete Duarte, representing Thomason Hospital, testified on  
         interim charge #3. 
          
         Dr. Gordon MiGee, representing TMA, El Paso County Medical  
         Society, testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         Senator Bivins asked Senator Truan, as Vice Chairman of Finance,  
         to ask the Legislative Budget Board to do an inequity analysis  
         on reimbursement rates for medicaid managed care and for the  
         CHIPS program in hopes to get a better distribution of dollars.   
         Chairman Lucio stated he would be happy to make that request.     
          
         Ms. Verlaine Stewart-Ray, representing El Paso Diabetes  
         Association/Thomason Hospital, testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         Mr. Kermit Heimann, representing Texas Diabetes Program/Council,  
         testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         At 4:15 p.m. Chairman Lucio resumed the chair.   
          
         Chairman Lucio asked Ms. Stewart-Ray to report to the Committee,  
         of the over 2200  cases of diabetes  diagnosed in the United  
         States everyday how many of those cases are along the Border.   
          
         Mr. Tim Lubbers, representing Community Voices of El Paso,  
         testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         Mr. Bill Schlesinger, representing Community Voices of El Paso,  
         testified on interim charge #3. 
          
         Ms. Diana Borja, representing Texas Natural Resource  
         Conservation Commission, testified on interim charge #2. 
         Mr. Ignacio Madera, Jr., representing Texas Water Development  
         Board, testified on interim charge #2. 
          
         Mr. Frank Espino, representing Texas Natural Resource  
         Conservation Commission, testified on interim charge #2. 
          
         Ms. Jennifer Allis, representing Office of the Secretary of  
         State, testified on interim charges #2 and #5. 
          
         Mr. Hector Gonzalez, representing El Paso Water Utilities,  
         testified on interim charge #2. 
          
         Mr. Luis Mario Gutierrez, representing Junta Municipal de Agua y  
         Saneamiento, testified on interim charge #2.  Mr. Alberto  
         Ramirez translated for Mr. Guteirrez. 
          
         Mr. Ricardo Castanon, representing Border Environment  
         Cooperation Commission, testified on interim charge #2. 
          
         Chairman Lucio asked Mr. Madera to report to the Committee on  
         how many grant proposals have been asked of the Texas Water  
         Development Board and how many have been approved over the last  
         5 years. 
          
         Mr. Andres Mares, representing Rio Valley Rainbow, testified on  
         interim charges. 
          
         Mr. Guillermo Glenn, representing Border Workers, testified on  
         interim charges. 
          
         Ms. Magdalena Portillo, representing self, testified on interim  
         charges. 
          
         Dr. Christine Brenner, representing self, testified on interim  
         charges. 
          
         Senator Truan made a motion that Comptroller Rylander be  
         commissioned to evaluate the issue of adult education and adult  
         literacy under the capacity of the Border Affairs Committee.   
         The motion was seconded by Senator Shapleigh.  Without  
         objection, the motion was adopted.  
         Mr. Alfredo Alvarado, representing self, testified on interim  
         charges. 
          
         Ms. Maria Villalba, representing La Mujer Obrera, testified on  
         interim charges.   
          
         Mr. Roberto Perez, representing self, testified on interim  
         charges. 
          
         At 7:30 p.m. Chairman Lucio moved that the committee stand  
         recessed until Friday morning; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.   
          
         At 9:10 a.m. Friday, November 19, 1999 the committee reconvened. 
          
         Ms. Jennifer Allis, representing Office of the Secretary of  
         State, testified on interim charge #5. 
          
         Ms. Becky Pestana, representing Office of the Attorney General,  
         testified on interim charge #5. 
          
         Mr. David Laney, representing Texas Department of  
         Transportation, testified on interim charge #5. 
          
         Mr. Ed Wueste, representing Texas Department of Transportation,  
         testified on interim charge #5. 
          
         Captain Tom Cummings, representing Texas Department of Public  
         Safety, testified on interim charge #5. 
          
         Captain Coy Clanton, representing Texas Department of Public  
         Safety, testified on interim charge #5. 
          
         At 10:05 p.m. Chairman Lucio moved that the committee stand  
         recessed until the call of the Chair; without objection, it was  
         so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr., Chair 
          
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         Stephanie R. Hoover, Clerk