MINUTES 
                                           
                              Thursday, June 27, 2002 
                                     10:00 a.m. 
                                   El Paso, Texas 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Veteran  
         Affairs and Military Installations  was held on Thursday, June  
         27, 2002, in El Paso, Texas 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh                 Senator Carlos F. Truan 
         Senator Leticia Van de Putte            Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Craig Estes 
          
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         Chairman Shapleigh requested everyone stand for the Presentation  
         of the Colors by the Military Honor Guard.  The Colors were  
         presented, the National Anthem was sung, and the Committee  
         Director led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh welcomed everyone to the committee hearing  
         and recognized the Members of the Committee as well as the  
         special guests in the audience.  Senators Van de Putte and Estes  
         also made opening remarks. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh recognized Councilman John Cook, District 4  
         Councilperson, for welcoming remarks.  Councilman Cook welcomed  
         the Committee to El Paso. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh then recognized Mayor Donald Carroll, Mayor  
         of Alamogordo, NM.  Mayor Carroll welcomed the Committee and  
         informed the Committee of the bi-state cooperation that exists  
         between Texas and New Mexico, emphasizing regional cooperation  
         in the area of economic development. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh recognized Salvador Payan, a representative  
         for Congressman Silvestre Reyes.  Mr. Payan welcomed the  
         Committee to El Paso and then read a statement from Congressman  
         Reyes concerning BRAC and veterans issues. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh then made a special presentation to Col.  
  
         (Ret.) Joseph C. Rodriguez, a Congressional Medal of Honor  
         winner, for his service in the military and his bravery.  Col.  
         (Ret.) Rodriguez was presented with a flag and a certificate for  
         his service to our country and our state.  Chairman Shapleigh  
         also made a special presentation to Ms. Hope Simpson.  Ms.  
         Simpson lost her husband, Corporal Brian K. Simpson, during a  
         SCUD attack on a military barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia in  
         1991.  Ms. Simpson was presented with a flag and a certificate  
         and was recognized for her sacrifice. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh then gave an explanation of the Committee's  
         charges and an overview of the military installations in Texas.   
         He noted the importance of the military to the state's economic  
         development and spoke about the upcoming Base Realignment and  
         Closure Act (BRAC). 
          
         The Chairman then invited the following person to provide a  
         briefing on the current and future missions to include the  
         five-year major facility and infrastructure construction plans  
         for Fort Bliss and to also address the current and projected  
         impact of urban development (including noise encroachment) upon  
         Fort Bliss military training programs that may alter desired  
         time, space and realism of training: 
          
              Colonel Wallace (Ben) Hobson, Chief of Staff, U.S. Army Air  
                   Defense Artillery Center and Fort Bliss 
          
         The witness provided written and oral testimony and responded to  
         questions by the members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following witness to provide testimony on current  
         and proposed economic development actions for El Paso and Fort  
         Bliss to include major facility and infrastructure construction  
         as identified by local military and/or community strategic  
         economic development plans: 
          
              Joyce Feinberg, Executive Assistant to the Mayor, City of  
         El Paso 
         The witness provided oral testimony and responded to questions  
         by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following witness to provide a briefing on  
         significant mission issues affecting White Sands Missile Range  
         and address cooperative agreements/relationships with Fort Bliss  
         and El Paso, Texas: 
          
              Larry D. Furrow, Chief of Public Affairs, White Sands  
         Missile Range 
          
         The witness provided oral testimony and responded to questions  
         by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
  
         invited the following witness to provide testimony on Texas'  
         three chief aerospace competitor states with regard to factors  
         effecting military related economic development and military  
         missions and to identify specific actions taken by other states  
         to gain competitive advantages, as well as, comment on state  
         initiatives to strengthen Texas' position: 
          
              Fred Johnson, Director of Planning and Development, Texas  
         Aerospace Commission 
          
         The witness provided written and oral testimony and responded to  
         questions by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following witness to provide testimony on cost  
         effective steps to better inform veterans of benefits to which  
         they may be entitled, including a technology based process: 
          
              James E. Nier, Executive Director, Texas Veterans  
         Commission 
          
         The witness provided written and oral testimony and responded to  
         questions by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following witness to provide testimony on the  
         effectiveness of job placement programs for veterans and the  
         process used to track state agency adherence to the state  
         statute relating to the matter of veteran's job placement  
         preference: 
              Terry O'Mahoney, Commissioner Representing Labor, Texas  
         Workforce Commission 
          
         The witness provided oral testimony and responded to questions  
         by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following panel of witnesses to provide testimony on  
         the impact of the current military mobilization on persons  
         called to active duty and their families, state and federal  
         statutes concerning guardsmen, and an assessment on the use of  
         funds from Proposition 8 to repair armories: 
               
              MG Wayne D. Marty, Assistant Adjutant General, Texas  
         National Guard 
              BG William Goodwin, Chief of Staff, Texas National Guard 
              Col. Garry D. Patterson, Director Facilities & Engineering,  
         Texas Army National Guard 
              LTC Patrick Hamilton, Mobilization Readiness Officer,  
         Adjutant General's Department 
               
         The witnesses provided written and oral testimony and responded  
         to questions by members of the Committee. 
          
         Chairman Shapleigh then laid out the June 4, 2002 minutes.   
  
         Senator Van de Putte moved the adoption of the minutes.  There  
         being no objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         Senator Estes left the hearing at 1:23 p.m. 
          
         The Chair then invited the following witness to provide  
         testimony on the number and age of veterans in the El Paso area  
         and to address the quality of service being experienced by  
         veterans as it relates to the dissemination of benefits  
         information and the level and adequacy of assistance provided by  
         County Veterans Service Officers: 
          
              Manuel O. Navarrete, Sr. Vice Commander (Incoming),  
                   Veterans of Foreign Wars-District #10 
          
         The witness provided written and oral testimony and responded to  
         questions by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following witness to provide testimony on actions  
         taken or proposed by Texas Strategic Military Planning  
         Commission to more effectively address military issues in Texas: 
          
              James P. Maloney, Member, Texas Strategic Military Planning  
         Commission 
          
         The witness provided written and oral testimony and responded to  
         questions by members of the Committee. 
          
         Senator Van de Putte left the hearing at 2:15 p.m. 
          
         There being no further questions for the witness, the Chair  
         invited the following panel of witnesses to provide testimony on  
         forecasted construction/repair of the highway systems used for  
         mobilizations of Texas Military Forces: 
          
              Wayne A. Dennis, Deputy Director Transportation Planning  
                   and Programming, Texas Department of Transportation  
              Manny Aguilera, Deputy District Engineer, Texas Department  
         of Transportation 
              Phillip T. Nash, Project Director, Texas Tech University 
          
         The witnesses provided written and oral testimony and responded  
         to questions by members of the Committee. 
          
         There being no witnesses registered or responding to the  
         Chairman's call for public testimony, the Chairman closed public  
         testimony. 
          
         Chairman  Shapleigh made closing remarks. 
          
         There being no further business, at 3:00 p.m. Chairman Shapleigh  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
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         Senator Eliot Shapleigh, Chair 
          
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         Kari McAdams, Clerk