MINUTES 
                                           
           ELECTRIC UTILITY RESTRUCTURING LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE 
                             Tuesday, February 5, 2002 
                                     10:00 a.m. 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted January 24, 2002, and in accordance  
         with Senate Rule 11.18, a public hearing of the Electric Utility  
         Restructuring Legislative Oversight Committee was held on  
         Tuesday, February 5, 2002, in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Troy Fraser, Co-Chairman        Senator Frank Madla 
         Representative Steven Wolens, Co-Chairman    Senator John  
                                                 Whitmire 
         Senator Teel Bivins                     Representative Kim  
                                                 Brimer 
         Senator Jane Nelson                     Representative David  
                                                 Counts 
                                                 Representative Debra  
         Danburg 
                                                 Representative Sylvester  
         Turner 
                                                                                   
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         The Committee having been in recess, Co-Chairman Wolens called  
         the meeting to order at 10:21 a.m.  The following business was  
         transacted.  Representative Ruth McClendon Jones also attended  
         the hearing. 
          
         Co-Chairman Wolens advised that invited witnesses would be  
         heard, including representatives from the Electric Reliability  
         Council of Texas (ERCOT), commissioners from the Public Utility  
         Commission (PUC), and others.  The Committee would be looking at  
         four issues identified by Co-Chairman Wolens and Co-Chairman  
         Fraser over the last month.  These issues are: 
          
              1.  How far have we advanced since the last meeting? 
              2.  Diagnosis - what are the glitches now? 
              3.  Prognosis - is there something out there that could  
         happen and are we prepared? 
              4.  Miscellaneous, including subpoenas issued at the PUC;  
              the low-income program; Enron and the extent to which Enron  
              coming out of the market is affecting the electricity  
              market; reserve capacity margin in Texas; and other issues. 
  
         Co-Chairman Fraser made opening remarks, noting the fact that  
         Senator Sibley had resigned and that Senator Fraser has taken  
         over the responsibilities of Co-Chairman of the Committee.  He  
         also thanked Senator Sibley for his work on the issue. 
          
         Following Co-Chairman Fraser's remarks, Co-Chairman Wolens  
         called the first invited witnesses, as follows: 
          
              Thomas E. Noel, CEO, ERCOT, 
              Cherie Broadrick, Manager, Retail Transactions, ERCOT, 
              William Bojorquez, Director, Settlements & Customer  
         Service, ERCOT, and 
              Sam Jones, Chief Operating Officer, ERCOT. 
          
         Mr. Noel discussed his letter of February 4, 2002, addressed to  
         the Co-Chairmen, which responded to the questions identified in  
         their letter of February 1, 2002.  This letter had been  
         distributed to the members of the Committee, and was made  
         available to those interested. 
          
         Janee Briesemeister, representing Consumers Union, was called to  
         respond to a question concerning whether consumers are being  
         switched in a timely manner. 
          
         Mike Renfro, PUC, was called to respond to questions concerning  
         customer education and how it was handled at the PUC. 
          
         The following witnesses testified concerning preassigned  
         transmission congestion rights: 
          
              Parviz Adib, Director of the Market Oversight Division,  
         PUC, 
              Mark Zion, Texas Public Power Association, and 
              Susan Durso, Attorney, PUC. 
          
         At 12:40 p.m. Representative Wolens moved that the committee  
         stand recessed for a brief break; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. 
          
         At 1:10 p.m. the committee reconvened, and Co-Chairman Wolens  
         called the PUC Commissioners, Becky Klein and Brett Perlman to  
         testify regarding the following: 
          
              1.  What are the successes and advances up to today?   
              2.  Where are the glitches and how are they being  
         addressed? 
              3.  What is the prognosis for the future - things that may  
         happen? 
              4.  Other issues, including subpoenas, reserve capacity  
         margin, and others? 
          
         During testimony concerning consumer response delays, the  
         following additional witnesses were called: 
          
              Mike Renfro, PUC, 
              Patricia Dolese, PUC, 
              Lane Lanford, Executive Director, PUC, 
              Janee Briesemeister, Consumers Union, and 
              Randall Chapman, Texas Legal Services Center. 
          
         There being no further business, at 3:07 p.m. Co-Chairman Wolens  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chairmen.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Troy Fraser, Co-Chairman                Representative  
                                                 Steven Wolens,  
                                                 Co-Chairman 
          
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         Barbara Henderson, Clerk