MINUTES 
                                           
                            SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                           Wednesday, September 17, 2003 
                           3:00 p.m. or upon adjournment 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was  
         held on Wednesday, September 17, 2003, in the Capitol Extension,  
         Room E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Teel Bivins                     Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Senator Kip Averitt 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
         Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Steve Ogden 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Royce West 
         Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 3:07 p.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         At 3:09 p.m. Senator Barrientos assumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out SB 4 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Bivins, to explain the bill.  Senator Bivins laid out a  
         committee substitute; the chair recognized Senator Bivins to  
         explain the difference between the committee substitute and the  
         bill as filed.  There was no public testimony on the bill.  The  
         bill was left pending without objection.   
          
         The chair laid out SB 5 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Bivins, to explain the bill.  Witnesses testifying and  
         registering on the bill are shown on the attached list.  The  
         chair moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  The bill was left pending without  
         objection. 
          
         At 3:30 p.m. Senator Bivins resumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out SB 2 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Ogden, to explain the bill.  Senator Ogden laid out a committee  
         substitute; the chair recognized Senator Ogden to explain the  
         difference between the committee substitute and the bill as  
         filed.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the bill are  
         shown on the attached list.  The chair moved that the public  
         testimony be closed; without objection, it was so ordered.  The  
         bill was left pending without objection. 
          
         At 5:21 p.m. Senator Zaffirini assumed the chair.   
          
         At 5:26 p.m. Senator Bivins resumed the chair.   
          
         There being no further business, at 5:48 p.m. Senator Bivins  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Teel Bivins, Chair 
          
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         Stephanie Hoover, Clerk