SENATE COMMITTEE ON STATE AFFAIRS 
                                Tuesday, May 6, 2003 
                                     8:00 a.m. 
                            Capitol Extension Auditorium 
         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on State Affairs  
         was held on Tuesday, May 6, 2003, in the Capitol Extension  
         Auditorium at Austin, Texas. 
         MEMBER PRESENT:                                              
                                                 MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Bill Ratliff                                                        
                                                           Senator Robert  
         Senator Todd Staples                                                        
                                                           Senator Frank  
         Senator Kenneth Armbrister                                             
                                                           Senator Jane  
         Senator Rodney Ellis 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Chris Harris 
         Chairman Ratliff called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m., and  
         continued taking  public testimony on the committee substitute  
         for HB 4.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the  
         substitute during today's hearing are shown on the attached  
         list.  For a brief period of time during the hearing, Senator  
         Ellis was in the chair. 
         At 10:50 a.m., the testimony of Mike Gallagher, TTLA was halted  
         and  Senator Ratliff moved that the committee stand recessed  
         until after adjournment of the Senate; without objection, it was  
         so ordered.   
         Note:     Pursuant to the suspension of the posting  
                   rule on the floor, the committee will meet  
                   at 8:00 a.m., Wednesday, May 7, 2003, in the  
                   Senate Chamber, to continue taking public  
                   testimony on the committee substitute for HB  
         Senator Bill Ratliff, Chairman 
         Nancy B. Macken, Clerk