MINUTES 
                                           
                        SENATE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE SENATE 
                               Tuesday, May 11, 2004 
                                      10 a.m. 
                                   Senate Chamber 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee of the Whole  
         Senate was held on Tuesday, May 11, 2004, in the Senate Chamber  
         at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Kenneth Armbrister              Senator Chris Harris 
         Senator Kip Averitt                     Senator Juan Hinojosa 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos              Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator John Carona 
         Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Rodney Ellis 
         Senator Kevin Eltife 
         Senator Craig Estes 
         Senator Troy Fraser 
         Senator Mario Gallegos, Jr. 
         Senator Mike Jackson 
         Senator Jon Lindsay 
         Senator Eddie Lucio, Jr. 
         Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Steve Ogden 
         Senator Kel Seliger 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Leticia Van de Putte 
         Senator Jeff Wentworth 
         Senator Royce West 
         Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst 
                                           
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         Dean Whitmire called the meeting to order at 10:48 a.m.  There  
         being a quorum present, the following business was transacted.   
          
         Dean Whitmire called upon the following panel to provide invited  
         testimony regarding administrative efficiency.  Panel one  
         included the following persons, who provided oral testimony: 
          
              Steve West, Assistant Superintendent for Finance and  
         Operations, Allen ISD 
              Mike Jolly, Associate Superintendent for Finance and  
              Business Services, Round Rock ISD 
              Jack Campbell, Texas Association of Business 
          
         At 11:45 a.m., Dean Whitmire moved that the Committee of the  
         Whole Senate stand recessed until 1:15 p.m. 
          
         Dean Whitmire reconvened the Committee of the Whole Senate at  
         1:33 p.m. 
          
         Dean Whitmire called upon the following panel to provide invited  
         testimony regarding charter school facilities.  Panel two  
         included the following persons, who provided oral testimony: 
          
              Mike Feinberg, Co-Founder, KIPP Academy Charter School,  
         Houston 
              Chris Barbic, Founder/Head of Schools, YES College  
         Preparatory Schools, Houston 
              Rosemary Perlmeter, Founder/Director, The North Hills  
         School, Irving 
              Leroy McClure, CEO and Superintendent, Focus Learning  
         Academy, Dallas 
              Tom Torkelson, Executive Director, IDEA Academy, Donna 
          
         Dean Whitmire called upon the following panel to provide invited  
         testimony regarding facilities.  Panel three included the  
         following persons, who provided oral testimony: 
          
              Leonard Merrell, Fast Growth School Coalition 
              Bruce La Boon, Esquire, Locke, Liddell & Sapp, LLP 
              Catherine Clark, Texas Association of School Boards 
          
         Dean Whitmire recognized Senator Shapiro to explain the second  
         installment of the committee substitute for HB 1, "Facilities  
         and Funding Formulas." 
          
         Senator Armbrister assumed presiding duties. 
          
         Senator Armbrister called upon the following panel to provide  
         invited testimony regarding single tier and elements of the  
         system.  Panel four included the following persons, who provided  
         oral testimony: 
          
              Ursula Parks, Public Education Manager, Legislative Budget  
         Board 
              Joe Wisnoski, Deputy Associate Commissioner on School  
              Finance and Fiscal Analysis, Texas Education Agency 
          
         Dean Whitmire resumed presiding duties. 
         Dean Whitmire called upon the following panel to provide invited  
         testimony regarding cost of education index.  Panel five  
         included the following persons, who provided oral testimony: 
          
              Charles Tafoya, Superintendent, El Paso ISD 
              Larry Lewis, Superintendent, Lancaster ISD 
              Richard Middleton, Superintendent, North East ISD 
              Mike Motheral, Superintendent, Sundown ISD 
          
         The following person provided oral and written testimony: 
          
              Lori Taylor, Assistant Professor, George Bush School of  
              Government and Public Service, Texas A&M University 
          
         Senator Brimer assumed presiding duties. 
          
         Senator Brimer called upon the following panel to provide  
         invited testimony regarding bilingual funding weight changes.   
         Panel six included the following persons, who provided oral  
         testimony: 
          
              Mary Jackson, Director of Special Programs, Fort Bend ISD 
              Sandra Acosta, President, Texas Association of Bilingual  
         Education 
          
         The following persons provided oral and written testimony: 
          
              Isabella Hinojosa, Coordinator for Bilingual-ESL,  
         Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD 
              David Barbosa, Superintendent, Grand Prairie ISD 
          
         Dean Whitmire resumed presiding duties. 
          
         Dean Whitmire announced that panel seven regarding equity and  
         local enrichment would be considered on Wednesday, May 12, 2004. 
          
         Dean Whitmire recognized President Pro Tempore Jeff Wentworth at  
         5:48 p.m., who moved that the Committee of the Whole Senate rise  
         and report progress.  Without objection, it was so ordered. 
                    
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         Dean John Whitmire, Chair 
          
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         Patsy Spaw, Secretary of the Senate