MINUTES 
                                           
                               Thursday, May 15, 2003 
                                     9:00 a.m. 
                            Capitol Extension Auditorium 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Infrastructure Development  
         and Security Committee was held on Thursday, May 15, 2003, in  
         the Capitol Extension Auditorium at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Steve Ogden                     Senator Frank Madla 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos              Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Rodney Ellis 
         Senator Jon Lindsay 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Jeff Wentworth 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.  The  
         following business was transacted:   
          
         Senator Ogden moved that the committee stand recessed until 9:30  
         a.m.; without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         The chair reconvened the hearing at 9:31 a.m. 
          
         The chair laid out HB 2006, relating to the construction and  
         maintenance of utility, common carrier, and energy transporter  
         facilities along, over, under, or across a railroad  
         right-of-way, and recognized the Senate sponsor, Senator Fraser,  
         to explain the bill.  Witnesses testifying and registering on  
         the bill are shown on the attached list.   
          
         Senator Wentworth moved adoption of the minutes from the  
         previous hearing held on May 12, 2003; without objection, it was  
         so ordered.   
          
         Senator Ogden moved that the committee stand recessed until 30  
         minutes after Senate session adjournment; without objection, it  
         was so ordered. 
          
         The chair reconvened the hearing at 2:13 p.m. 
          
         The chair laid out HB 3184, relating to the financing,  
         construction, improvement, maintenance, and operation of toll  
  
         facilities by the Texas Department of Transportation, and  
         recognized the Senate sponsor, Senator Barrientos, to explain  
         the bill.  Senator Barrientos sent up a committee substitute;  
         the chair recognized Senator Barrientos to explain the  
         difference between the committee substitute and the bill as  
         filed.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the bill are  
         shown on the attached list.  The chair moved that the public  
         testimony be closed; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Senator Ogden moved that HB 3184 be left pending to await a  
         quorum; without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         Public testimony on HB 2006 resumed. 
          
         The chair laid out HB 3184, which had been left pending earlier  
         in the hearing.  Senator Barrientos moved adoption of a  
         committee substitute sent up earlier at the hearing; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Upon arrival of a quorum, Senator  
         Barrientos moved that HB 3184 do not pass but that CSHB 3184 be  
         reported back to the Senate with the recommendation that it do  
         pass and be printed.  The motion carried with a record vote of 6  
         ayes, 0 nay, 0 present not voting, and 3 absent.   
          
         Public testimony on HB 2006 resumed.   
          
         At 3:19 p.m. Senator Barrientos assumed the chair.   
          
         At 3:26 p.m. Senator Ogden resumed the chair.   
          
         The chair moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Ogden moved that HB 2006  
         be left pending; without objection, it was so ordered.  
          
         The following bill had no action taken in committee: SB 1677 by  
         Barrientos. 
          
         There being no further business, at 3:35 p.m. Senator Ogden  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Steve Ogden, Chair 
          
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         Amy Schwartz, Clerk