MINUTES 
                                           
                            SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                               Thursday, July 7, 2005 
                           2:30 p.m. or upon adjournment 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was  
         held on Thursday, July 7, 2005, in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Steve Ogden                     Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Senator Kip Averitt 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos 
         Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Royce West 
         Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 4:35 p.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         Senator Zaffirini assumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out SB 6, which had been left pending at a  
         previous hearing.  Witnesses testifying and registering on the  
         bill are shown on the attached list.  The chair moved that the  
         public testimony be closed; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  Senator West sent up Committee Amendment 11 and then  
         withdrew the amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Senator Shapiro sent up Committee Amendment 12 and then  
         temporarily withdrew the amendment; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  Senator Barrientos sent up Committee Amendment 13 and  
         moved adoption; without objection, the amendment was adopted.   
         Senator Duncan sent up Committee Amendment 14 and then  
         temporarily withdrew the amendment; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.  Senator Shapiro sent up Committee Amendment 12, which  
         had been temporarily left pending, and moved adoption; without  
  
         objection, the amendment was adopted.  Senator Duncan sent up  
         Committee Amendment 14, which had been temporarily left pending,  
         and moved adoption; without objection, the amendment was  
         adopted.  Senator Ogden requested unanimous consent to roll the  
         amendments into a committee substitute; without objection, it  
         was so ordered.  Senator Ogden then moved that the committee  
         substitute be adopted; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Senator Ogden moved that SB 6 do not pass but that CSSB 6 be  
         reported back to the Senate with the recommendation that it do  
         pass and be printed.  The motion carried with a record vote of  
         14 ayes, 0 nay, 0 present not voting, and 1 absent.   
          
         Senator Ogden resumed the chair.   
          
         At 5:05 p.m. Senator Ogden moved that the Committee stand  
         recessed until the adjournment of the Senate; without objection,  
         it was so ordered. 
          
         The Committee reconvened at 7:07 p.m. 
          
         Senator Zaffirini assumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out HB 3 and recognized the Senate sponsor,  
         Senator Ogden, to explain the bill.  Senator Ogden sent up a  
         committee substitute; the chair recognized Senator Ogden to  
         explain the difference between the committee substitute and the  
         bill as filed.   
          
         Senator Ogden moved to suspend Committee Rule #11 regarding Bill  
         Analyses; without objection; it was so ordered. 
          
         Witnesses testifying and registering on the bill are shown on  
         the attached list.  The chair moved that the public testimony be  
         closed; without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         Senator Zaffirini moved for a technical correction that all  
         amendments previously drafted and submitted for SB 3 be changed  
         to amendments for HB 3; without objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         Senator Ogden sent up Committee Amendment 1 and moved adoption;  
         without objection, the amendment was adopted.  Senator  
         Barrientos sent up Committee Amendments 2-4, and then withdrew  
         the amendments; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Shapleigh sent up Committee Amendment 5, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Shapleigh sent up Committee Amendment 6, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Zaffirini sent up Committee Amendment 7, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Senator Zaffirini sent up Committee Amendment 8, and then  
         withdrew the amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Senator Nelson sent up Committee Amendment 9, and then withdrew  
         the amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Zaffirini sent up Committee Amendment 10, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
  
         Shapleigh sent up Committee Amendment 11, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Nelson  
         sent up Committee Amendments 12 and 13, and then withdrew the  
         amendments; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Shapleigh sent up Committee Amendment 14, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator  
         Barrientos sent up Committee Amendment 15, and then withdrew the  
         amendment; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Ogden  
         requested unanimous consent to incorporate amendments into the  
         committee substitute; without objection, it was so ordered.   
         Senator Ogden then moved that the new committee substitute be  
         adopted; without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Ogden  
         moved that HB 3 do not pass but that CSHB 3 be reported back to  
         the Senate with the recommendation that it do pass and be  
         printed.  The motion carried with a record vote of 9 ayes, 5  
         nays, 0 present not voting, and 1 absent.  Senator Shapiro  
         requested unanimous consent to be shown voting aye; without  
         objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         Senator Ogden resumed the chair.   
          
         There being no further business, Senator Ogden moved that the  
         Committee stand recessed subject to the call of the chair.   
         Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Steve Ogden, Chair 
          
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         Amy Jeter, Clerk