MINUTES 
                                           
                            SENATE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE 
                              Thursday, August 4, 2005 
                           1:30 p.m. or upon adjournment 
                           Capitol Extension, Room E1.036 
                                           
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         Pursuant to a notice posted in accordance with Senate Rule  
         11.18, a public hearing of the Senate Committee on Finance was  
         held on Thursday, August 4, 2005, in the Capitol Extension, Room  
         E1.036, at Austin, Texas. 
          
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         MEMBERS PRESENT:                        MEMBERS ABSENT: 
         Senator Steve Ogden                     Senator Judith Zaffirini 
         Senator Kip Averitt                     Senator Kim Brimer 
         Senator Gonzalo Barrientos              Senator Royce West 
         Senator Bob Deuell 
         Senator Robert Duncan 
         Senator Kyle Janek 
         Senator Jane Nelson 
         Senator Florence Shapiro 
         Senator Eliot Shapleigh 
         Senator Todd Staples 
         Senator John Whitmire 
         Senator Tommy Williams 
                                           
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         The chair called the meeting to order at 4:31 p.m.  There being  
         a quorum present, the following business was transacted:   
          
         The chair laid out SJR 4 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Janek, to explain the bill.  Senator Janek sent up a committee  
         substitute; the chair recognized Senator Janek to explain the  
         difference between the committee substitute and the bill as  
         filed.  Senator Janek moved adoption of the committee  
         substitute; without objection, it was so ordered.  Witnesses  
         testifying and registering on the bill are shown on the attached  
         list.  The chair moved that the public testimony be closed;  
         without objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Janek moved that  
         SJR 4 do not pass but that CSSJR 4 be reported back to the  
         Senate with the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  
         Senator Ogden moved to leave the vote open; without objection,  
         it was so ordered.  Senator Barrientos requested unanimous  
         consent to be shown voting aye; without objection, it was so  
         ordered. The final motion carried with a record vote of 8 ayes,  
         2 nays, 0 present not voting, and 5 absent.   
          
         Senator Barrientos assumed the chair.   
  
         The posting rule, Senate Rule 11.18, was suspended to hear the  
         following bill(s): SJR 10 and SJR 11. 
          
         The chair laid out SJR 11 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Ogden, to explain the bill.  Witnesses testifying and  
         registering on the bill are shown on the attached list.  The  
         chair moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Ogden moved that SJR 11  
         be reported favorably to the Senate with the recommendation that  
         it do pass and be printed.  The motion carried with a record  
         vote of 10 ayes, 1 nay, 0 present not voting, and 4 absent.   
          
         Senator Ogden resumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out SJR 7 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Wentworth, to explain the bill.  Senator Williams sent up  
         Committee Amendment 1 and moved adoption; without objection, the  
         amendment was adopted.  Witnesses testifying and registering on  
         the bill are shown on the attached list.  The chair moved that  
         the public testimony be closed; without objection, it was so  
         ordered.   
          
         The chair laid out SJR 8 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Barrientos, to explain the bill.  Witnesses testifying and  
         registering on the bill are shown on the attached list.  The  
         chair moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         Senator Williams requested unanimous consent to roll the  
         amendment for SJR 7 into a committee substitute; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Williams then moved that  
         the committee substitute be adopted; without objection, it was  
         so ordered.  Senator Williams moved that SJR 7 do not pass but  
         that CSSJR 7 be reported back to the Senate with the  
         recommendation that it do pass and be printed.  The motion  
         carried with a record vote of 11 ayes, 0 nay, 0 present not  
         voting, and 4 absent.  Senator Shapiro and Senator Staples  
         requested unanimous consent to be shown voting aye; without  
         objection, it was so ordered. 
          
         Senator Barrientos moved that SJR 8 be reported favorably to the  
         Senate with the recommendation that it do pass and be printed.   
         The motion carried with a record vote of 10 ayes, 0 nay, 0  
         present not voting, and 5 absent.  Senator Shapiro requested  
         unanimous consent to be shown voting aye; without objection, it  
         was so ordered. 
          
         Senator Barrientos assumed the chair.   
          
         The chair laid out SJR 10 and recognized the author, Senator  
         Ogden, to explain the bill.  Witnesses testifying and  
         registering on the bill are shown on the attached list.  The  
         chair moved that the public testimony be closed; without  
         objection, it was so ordered.  Senator Ogden moved that SJR 10  
  
         be left pending; without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
         Senator Ogden resumed the chair.   
          
         There was no action taken for the following bill(s): SJR 9. 
          
         There being no further business, at 5:35 p.m. Senator Ogden  
         moved that the Committee stand recessed subject to the call of  
         the chair.  Without objection, it was so ordered.   
          
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         Senator Steve Ogden, Chair 
          
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         Amy Jeter, Clerk